One World Government through the Copenhagen Treaty

[J-C]

In December this year, the Copenhagen treaty will be signed into effect by virtually every country on the planet. The treaty will effectively replace the UN's Kyoto treaty (which expires in 2012), for tackling climate change.

Under the treaty, rich countries will have to pay vast sums to poorer countries, as 'climate debt'. I.e., we have been very naughty and released CO2 into the atmosphere, whereas poor countries haven't. Therefore, we will pay them huge amounts of money in order to help them combat the effects of climate change in their countries.

Of course, the UN hasn't considered the fact that carbon has next to no effect on climate. The latest research shows this, and this is why more and more people are growing sceptical. It is also why Greens are becoming more militant and vicious - they realise their time is running out. A couple of facts: The earth has been cooling for over a decade. Antarctic ice is at its highest level for 30 years. When the sun is active, the earth warms up, when it is not very active (like now), the earth is cold. Al Gores ridiculous 'hockey stick graph' has also been proven completely false:
How the global warming industry is based on one MASSIVE lie – Telegraph Blogs

It's also worth remembering that most Green activists are 'ex'-Marxists, and 20-30 years ago were predicting another ice age! I remember one (can't remember his name) predicting that Antarctic ice would increase so rapidly that it would reach South America in a few years, and that it would break, slam into the sea, and cause a catastrophic tsunami which would wipe out coastal cities even up to the equator!

Anyway, back to the treaty: It will supersede the constitution of every country that signs it, and no country will be able to leave, without the full agreement of every other member. This means that if the US ratifies the treaty, the mighty US constitution will be inferior to the Copenhagen treaty.

The treaty literally forms the first building blocks of a one world government. If you don't believe me, read the treaty at the link at the bottom of this post. The word 'government' is actually used. The seeds have been planted for many years, but if this treaty comes into effect, they will germinate.

Of course, America's "hope" in Obama has come to naught. As a Nobel Peace Prize winner (what a joke!), he would have to sign the treaty, even if he didn't want to. Many of us warned against him, but few listened. The opposite of Martin Luther King's brilliant "I have a Dream" occurred. Instead of being judged on the heinous content of his character, Obama was judged by the colour of his skin, and so was elected as President.

A draft of the treaty can be read here:
http://www.globalclimatescam.com/doc...hagen-2009.pdf

It is over 100 pages long, but I'd like to draw your attention especially to paragraphs 36, 38 (page 18), and 46 (page 44).

So now we are living through the events prophesied in scripture. If this treaty comes to pass, we will have the start of a Marxist One World Government. Lord Christopher Monckton was interviewed by Glenn beck about the treaty:

YouTube - Glenn Beck Interviews Lord Monckton On...

We must hope that the treaty is not fully ratified by the US (and other countries). If it is merely signed, it will not be completely binding, and there will be a 'way out', but if it is fully ratified, things look more grim.

Friends, we, as children of God have been so lax, for so long. Enough is enough!

[BaldJesus]

That does not sound good.

Have you ever seen the movie End Game (at least I think that's what you call it?). I say movie, it's more of a several hour long documentary.
I think you'd be interested in it.

[Iceman]

Seems like you have quite the axe to grind.
Should we consider your post as level headed and well considered?
We as the children of God, having been lax so long, should reject giving poorer countries money?
And what of the mighty US constitution? The US is just a country, and is not the Kingdom of God. We as Christians should consider that, and ask what does heaven on earth look like.

[onelazyguy]

I believe that if we are approaching the one world government then that means that the antiChrist will reveal himself shortly into or maybe befoe that happens. I also feel like to many christians in America are "bashing" Obama all the time when in fact the Bible says to honor thy leaders, and pray for them. he may not make the right decisions all the time he might not be a great president, he might even be the antiChrist! but our job is to honor him and pray for him and make sure we are not speaking words of death or discouragement. the Bible is very clear that God apoints our kings and rulers, so to verbally attack him is to attack Gods plan. I would also like to say that while this may appear as the start of an ends time prophecy, people probably felt that way when the UN was formed, when NATO was formed, all of it. I do that the Bible is clear about us caring for the poor. we as american christians should jump on the thought that our nation might be all together choosing to do one of the things that Jesus called us to do. thank you for reading my opinion.

[Iceman]

I don't think we are looking at a world government, but a global initiative. It's hardly the first one, and it won't be the last. What it is, is a recognition that we share a planet together. Just look at economics. The mistakes America made to turn itself into a financial black hole caused a world wide recession, to the degree where it's predicted the US dollar will soon not be the global trade currencey.
Why does global cooperation, and taking responsibility for our actions as countries herald end times?

[J-C]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I don't think we are looking at a world government, but a global initiative. It's hardly the first one, and it won't be the last. What it is, is a recognition that we share a planet together. Just look at economics. The mistakes America made to turn itself into a financial black hole caused a world wide recession, to the degree where it's predicted the US dollar will soon not be the global trade currencey.
Why does global cooperation, and taking responsibility for our actions as countries herald end times?

I have no 'axe to grind', but am well-versed in scripture, and to put it bluntly, recognise what's going on in the world right now. Who knows, this may only be a first sortie from Satan, and may fail, but on the other hand, it may not...

Did you read the draft treaty? It creates a government (actual word used) that is responsible for taxation, enforcement, and redistribution. Basically, the UN would be able to raise taxes, and members of the treaty would lose control of their environmental policy, and a chunk of their economic control.

To repeat; I reckon this is the beginning of a one world government. I think, based on similar institutions, it is reasonable to predict these powers would grow. For example the EU started as the "European Coal and Steel Community", but transmogrified into a federal state which sets 70-80% of Britain's legislation, and ignores referendum results until the "right answer" is given (France, Holland, and Ireland all ignored, and no-one else was asked for their opinion on the EU Constitution).

Also, you state that the treaty means that signatories are 'taking responsibility for their actions'. Does this mean you accept the Green viewpoint? If you understood communism, you'd see that Greens are the new Reds. Also, scientific evidence blows green theories out of the water... CO2 is an essential gas for life on earth, and is by no means a pollutant. It also has no effect on global temperatures. Remember, Greens were talking about a global ice age only 25 years ago. Why should we believe these 'ex'-commies this time, especially when alot of evidence refutes their view?

If by talking about 'global co-operation', and 'global initiatives' means that you believe that institutions like the UN, and the EU are good, then simply put, this is delusional and flies in the face of all evidence.

Originally Posted by Iceman

Seems like you have quite the axe to grind.
Should we consider your post as level headed and well considered?
We as the children of God, having been lax so long, should reject giving poorer countries money?
And what of the mighty US constitution? The US is just a country, and is not the Kingdom of God. We as Christians should consider that, and ask what does heaven on earth look like.

Its not giving poorer countries money that I'm adverse to, but the reasons for doing so. 'climate debt'!? See above. Also it is fact that many governments in poorer countries are corrupt, and any financial aid will not even reach the poor people.

The US constitution is the most sublime constitution every drafted by human hands. Simply put: I've read it, and I'm jealous of it, and wish the UK had it! The US constitution starts 'we the people', and protects freedom and democracy. It is no wonder the American people are so proud of it. I'm not saying the US is the Kingdom of God, far from it, but I think the Americans should fight tooth and nail against anything that defies or tries to supersede their rather beautiful constitution!

Heaven on Earth is an impossible concept while sin is resides on the planet. For a start only those saved by Grace make it to Heaven, and the vast majority of the world is unsaved. Hence, very few who are saved by Grace are in government, which is obvious by their actions. To make the world a better place, we'd need Christian men and women in power, following God's principles to the letter. I'll put it bluntly: many of the ones that are in power belong in prison. So I don't really understand your point.

Originally Posted by onelazyguy

I believe that if we are approaching the one world government then that means that the antiChrist will reveal himself shortly into or maybe befoe that happens. I also feel like to many christians in America are "bashing" Obama all the time when in fact the Bible says to honor thy leaders, and pray for them. he may not make the right decisions all the time he might not be a great president, he might even be the antiChrist! but our job is to honor him and pray for him and make sure we are not speaking words of death or discouragement. the Bible is very clear that God apoints our kings and rulers, so to verbally attack him is to attack Gods plan. I would also like to say that while this may appear as the start of an ends time prophecy, people probably felt that way when the UN was formed, when NATO was formed, all of it. I do that the Bible is clear about us caring for the poor. we as american christians should jump on the thought that our nation might be all together choosing to do one of the things that Jesus called us to do. thank you for reading my opinion.

I agree We should pray for our rulers, but could I ask where it says we should honour them? I also think that 'attacking' Obama (verbally! ) isn't going against God's plan. If Obama is going against God, then we have a duty to speak against it. It is worth remembering that God has in the past appointed evil rulers over his people as a judgment against them. This might well be the case today. I've heard it said "we get the rulers we deserve", and think that the statement has a point...

[darran]

what is it your afraid might happen?

or to put it another way, why do you care if a degree of worldly decision making is shifted from national too international level?

[onelazyguy]

I agree We should pray for our rulers, but could I ask where it says we should honour them? I also think that 'attacking' Obama (verbally! ) isn't going against God's plan. If Obama is going against God, then we have a duty to speak against it. It is worth remembering that God has in the past appointed evil rulers over his people as a judgment against them. This might well be the case today. I've heard it said "we get the rulers we deserve", and think that the statement has a point...[/quote]



Respect everyone, and love your Christian brothers and sisters. Fear God, and respect the king. (1Peter 2:17) Respect the king is refferring to the government, in the amplified it says respect the emperer and The Message just calls it the government. so you are right I did not use proper word choice in that the correct thing is to respect him. but if we look in the Old testement at the story of king Saul and David we can see that honoring them is what we are called to even if they are "evil leaders." Saul was king but God had left him and chosen to anoint David as the new king of Israel. Instead of David killing Saul and taking his rightful place as king he chose to submit to him instead. even when the "evil ruler" Saul tried to kill him multiple times David still followed him, served him, and fought for him. now if David was able to do this when he himself knew he was the rightful king how much more should we submit and do what we can to help Obama weather we think he is a bad or "evil" ruler or not? also as a side note in the whole story of Saul and David do we see David verbally tear down Saul.

Attacking anybody verbally goes against Gods plan. "say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned" (Mt.12:36-37) "Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof." (Proverbs 18:21) With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be (James 3:9-10). Thank you for reading my opinion and for responding.

[J-C]

Originally Posted by darran

what is it your afraid might happen?

or to put it another way, why do you care if a degree of worldly decision making is shifted from national too international level?

Revelation (and I think Daniel?) describe a one world government, which will be headed by the infamous 'Anti-Christ'. There will be a time of tremendous "trouble, such as never was since there was a nation". Christians will be targetted, and treated awfully, and put to death because of the Truth. Obviously, any step towards this sends alarm bells ringing in my head! Especially when you look at history. The EU didn’t stay as the European Coal and Steel Community for long, and I fear this will go much, much further than merely taxing us to death.

I know one should approach the 'one world government' thing with caution. There are myriad conspiracy theories, and if you so much as mention the words 'Illuminati', 'New World order', or 'Bilderberg', you are instantly thrown in the loony bin and branded a nutter! I think however, that this is different. For the first time we are seeing the powers that be actively pursuing a form of unified world governance, and at the same time, surrendering sovereignty to this world system. All this is being done by ‘Greens’, rather than the illuminati or whatever, and unfortunately, Greens aren’t a conspiracy theory…

Originally Posted by onelazyguy

Respect everyone, and love your Christian brothers and sisters. Fear God, and respect the king. (1Peter 2:17) Respect the king is refferring to the government, in the amplified it says respect the emperer and The Message just calls it the government. so you are right I did not use proper word choice in that the correct thing is to respect him. but if we look in the Old testement at the story of king Saul and David we can see that honoring them is what we are called to even if they are "evil leaders." Saul was king but God had left him and chosen to anoint David as the new king of Israel. Instead of David killing Saul and taking his rightful place as king he chose to submit to him instead. even when the "evil ruler" Saul tried to kill him multiple times David still followed him, served him, and fought for him. now if David was able to do this when he himself knew he was the rightful king how much more should we submit and do what we can to help Obama weather we think he is a bad or "evil" ruler or not? also as a side note in the whole story of Saul and David do we see David verbally tear down Saul.

Attacking anybody verbally goes against Gods plan. "say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned" (Mt.12:36-37) "Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof." (Proverbs 18:21) With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be (James 3:9-10). Thank you for reading my opinion and for responding.

As for ‘respect the king’, it only means we should accept that he has been put in his place by God. How far does the ‘honour’ that you speak of go? Should we accept any law that governments attempt to pass, without question? Would you honour a law that forced everyone in the country to convert to (for example) a pagan religion? How about one that outlawed Christianity? I would verbally attack that law, and not to do so would be spineless, showing contempt for our God, because we would willingly be inviting sin into legislation if we didn’t challenge it in the most hard and stern way possible.

I know this is an extreme example, but it illustrates my point. It is not just serious things like this that we should question, but absolutely everything that goes against God’s word. Indeed, if our rulers refuse to listen, then we could legitimately go as far as to pray for their downfall, if called to do so by God. Before I’m accused for being ‘over the top’, would you pray for the downfall of an evil system, such as the USSR, if you lived under its Iron fist? Remember, even a little leaven leavens the whole lump.

The reason for the state of the churches today is that everyone views us as spineless pushovers. If Christians would tell it as it is, with all the ‘unpopular’ details, and without the silly marketing ploys and worldly preaching, things would be better.

[Iceman]

Revelation (and I think Daniel?) describe a one world government, which will be headed by the infamous 'Anti-Christ'.

Revelation is apocalypticism for Rome and the Emperor.

I also think by government they mean a ruling body yes, but not one that can dictate how individual countries run.

Like the whaling treaty, not every country signed it, and they still do whaling, some signed it and still do whaling (thank you Japan) which makes it illegal.