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Old 03-07-2006, 07:10 PM   #1
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Ecumenical Movement

Heard of it? Do ya know what it's about? The objectives, or desired outcomes? Do ya know of any objections to it?

Do you agree with it? Do you think it is of God, or the world?

Let's learn about it so we know whether we should be supporting it or not... post what you know, and what you wanna know. We'll work to find credible sources about it so that we can "test everything", and see if this is something we should be holding to.
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:12 PM   #2
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Um...haven't heard about it at all---I'm in the dark...
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:46 PM   #3
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i think its great, to have the different denominations and even sides (catholic protestant) working together for a common purpose, whether that be for human dignity, or something less significant. i think it is important that the whole body of Christ works together, instead of squabbling over our differences when we meet.
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:45 PM   #4
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Im all for ecuminism, i think it is a great concept. My family is part of a ecumenical community. Basically people of any Christian denomination can be part of the community and come to meetings etc etc. Ecuminism encourages Christians to be well grounded in their own respective beliefs and to still actively participate in their own churches. It requires each one to be supportive of each others Christian beliefs whilst not necessarily agreeing at the same time.
This article might help understanding ecuminism better. It is a pdf so you need acrobat to access it.

http://www.servantsofJesus.org/ecume...nism120503.pdf
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Old 03-08-2006, 12:08 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by JohnSolo
Im all for ecuminism, i think it is a great concept. My family is part of a ecumenical community. Basically people of any Christian denomination can be part of the community and come to meetings etc etc. Ecuminism encourages Christians to be well grounded in their own respective beliefs and to still actively participate in their own churches. It requires each one to be supportive of each others Christian beliefs whilst not necessarily agreeing at the same time.
This article might help understanding ecuminism better. It is a pdf so you need acrobat to access it.

http://www.servantsofJesus.org/ecume...nism120503.pdf
No, ecumenism is wrong. All denominations are not equal. Joining an ecumenical movement comprimises yourself to other denominations beliefs, which include idolatry, and other false doctrines. This means if you were protestant, you would have to comprimise yourself with the worship of the Mary Goddess, and a wafer as God. This also means that if you are not a mormon, you would comprimise yourself with believing that the book of Mormon is truth, and that you would allow their "angel" Moroni to be worshipped in front of you and you would have to wink at them, because, after all, all is one right? Wrong. But thats what the ecumenical movement teaches.

The ecumenical movement is the same movement that tries to unite all religions together with Christianity. This inludes Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism. These are very violent and dangerous religions. Just recently little children were ripped apart and mutilated by Hindus who attempted to appease their demonic Goddess Kali.

Wonderful, huh?

If you have any sense or any base research in denominations and religions, stay as far away from this movement as possible, and stick to Bible-based, Bible-centered, nondenominational Christianity. It's the only way to salvation. There is no other way. Not by angels, or wafer-Gods, or Mary, or Moroni, or Kali, or Shiva, or Buddha, or Maitreya (remember that name), or any other God or doctrine. Only through Jesus Christ. Remember, the road to salvation is narrow.

14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

2 Corinthians 6:14-16
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Old 03-08-2006, 11:47 AM   #6
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Interesting responses...

So, if I am understanding correctly, Ecumenism promotes the idea of "We can disagree and both be right in our own way.", yes? So it's kind of a church version of relativism, a lack of absolute truth, where each religion can be right. Yes?
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Old 03-08-2006, 11:50 AM   #7
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That's what it seems like to me....
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Old 03-08-2006, 11:59 AM   #8
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Sounds dangerous
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Old 03-08-2006, 12:06 PM   #9
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Precisely---how would you do commities and missions??? Goodness...even if it were just Christian Denominations...that would be dangerous so much dissetion while worshipping God.
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:06 PM   #10
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I guess just about every heresy has an element of truth. While I do believe that Christian unity is lacking today, I believe that we're plummeting down the slide of not standing up for truth.

What we suffer from... is humility in the wrong place. Modesty has moved from the organ of ambition. Modesty has settled upon the organ of conviction; where it was never meant to be. A man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth; this has been exactly reversed. Nowadays the part of a man that a man does assert is exactly the part he ought not assert--himself. The part he doubts is exactly the part he ought not to doubt--the Divine Reason. ~G. K. Chesterton


I think there are things we can pull out of the ecumenical movement. There is no reason that genuine christians shouldn't be able to worship together under various conditions. Musical preferences, worship styles and preaching styles shouldn't really matter as much as we like to make them. The focus is Christ and His glory.

A closing thought to ponder on:
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. ~Blaise Pascal

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