Curses

HaveFaith2005 · 09-22-2005, 01:11 PM

What do you think about curses? Are they real or fake? Your thoughts please.

bee7le · 09-22-2005, 01:25 PM

A curse is defined as a prayer for evil to come over someone. Since we would not pray to a Holy God for evil, one would assume that prayer would be to something other than God. And to say that my God does not have sovereign control over all things is...well... preposterous. Even Satan has to ask God's permission to touch His people. So that would be asking God's permission to curse us. I guess a similar instance happened to Job, but I can honestly say it's not common. I don't know any of us who could have taken a stance like Job.

Now as for generational curses. Well, that's just a silly misinterpretation many seem to buy into. But I'll save that one for later.

onfire4christ · 09-22-2005, 01:51 PM

Boy do I know your stance on that one bee7le..I remember quite well..from openphorum.

jcdesertvoice · 09-22-2005, 02:35 PM

Curses. Yes curses are real. I don't have time to go into a long discussion right now I'll post more later. But there is such a thing as generational curses. And I have scriptures to back it up. but I'll post later.

bee7le · 09-22-2005, 03:20 PM

Hey onfire!
Long time no see. I hope the Holy Spirit is continuing to work mightily in your life. You have always been a spark of fresh fire.

I look forward to a rebuttal jcdesertvoice.

HaveFaith2005 · 09-22-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jcdesertvoice

Curses. Yes curses are real. I don't have time to go into a long discussion right now I'll post more later. But there is such a thing as generational curses. And I have scriptures to back it up. but I'll post later.

Anything you have on this topic are welcome.

JohnSolo · 09-22-2005, 08:36 PM

The way I understand it curses are generally brought upon people because of sin. The reason the Devil had to ask permission of God in the case of Job is because Job was a righteous man in the first place and there was no area that the devil could touch him. I think that if Job was a sinful man this would not have been the case.
So different sins may bring different curses upon families and as Desertvoice said it is generational. ie. the sin of freemasonry will bring a certain curse on a family that can last several generations. The same can be said for alcoholism, homosexuality etc. How that curse manifests itself can vary... but the point is that it can be our own sin that brings curses upon us and our family as sin is also communal.

En79 · 09-23-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jcdesertvoice

Curses. Yes curses are real. I don't have time to go into a long discussion right now I'll post more later. But there is such a thing as generational curses. And I have scriptures to back it up. but I'll post later.

I'm interested in reading what you have to write.

Fighter07 · 09-24-2005, 12:18 PM

Curses are very real. They can happen to people when they walk outside of the word of God in unforgiveness, strife, non-tithers (your cursed with a curse), and people who speak opposite of the Word (cursing yourself). For example we so commonly say, "I'm sick, I have this and that disease, I have cancer, or that kid will never get saved, my neighborhood is wicked," so forth and so forth. You are speaking a curse apon yourself and if someone says like I stated before that some kid will never get saved, you are speaking a curse on that person's life instead of speaking the Word. Proverbs 18:21 says, "Death and life are in the power of the tongue." Also Proverbs 26:2 says, "The curse causeless shall not come so there is always a cause for a curse."

catlover16 · 09-24-2005, 12:32 PM

I really don't know, but I have to agree that things you say can cause harm.

09-22-2005, 01:11 PM	#1
HaveFaith2005 HaveFaith2005 is in your extened network. Edit Have a great day!	Curses What do you think about curses? Are they real or fake? Your thoughts please. __________________ Have a blesse New Year!
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09-22-2005, 01:25 PM	#2
bee7le bee7le Edit Apostle	A curse is defined as a prayer for evil to come over someone. Since we would not pray to a Holy God for evil, one would assume that prayer would be to something other than God. And to say that my God does not have sovereign control over all things is...well... preposterous. Even Satan has to ask God's permission to touch His people. So that would be asking God's permission to curse us. I guess a similar instance happened to Job, but I can honestly say it's not common. I don't know any of us who could have taken a stance like Job. Now as for generational curses. Well, that's just a silly misinterpretation many seem to buy into. But I'll save that one for later.
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09-22-2005, 01:51 PM	#3
onfire4christ onfire4christ Edit Prophet/Prophetess	Boy do I know your stance on that one bee7le..I remember quite well..from openphorum. __________________ Ash-- "I would like you to give a message. Please do your best to tell the world what is happening to us, the children. So that other children don't have to pass through this violence."
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09-22-2005, 02:35 PM	#4
jcdesertvoice jcdesertvoice Edit Prophet/Prophetess	Curses. Yes curses are real. I don't have time to go into a long discussion right now I'll post more later. But there is such a thing as generational curses. And I have scriptures to back it up. but I'll post later. __________________ Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every nation for you are a word out of the mouth of God and you will not return unto Him void.
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09-22-2005, 03:20 PM	#5
bee7le bee7le Edit Apostle	Hey onfire! Long time no see. I hope the Holy Spirit is continuing to work mightily in your life. You have always been a spark of fresh fire. I look forward to a rebuttal jcdesertvoice.
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09-22-2005, 08:36 PM	#7
JohnSolo JohnSolo Edit Apostle	The way I understand it curses are generally brought upon people because of sin. The reason the Devil had to ask permission of God in the case of Job is because Job was a righteous man in the first place and there was no area that the devil could touch him. I think that if Job was a sinful man this would not have been the case. So different sins may bring different curses upon families and as Desertvoice said it is generational. ie. the sin of freemasonry will bring a certain curse on a family that can last several generations. The same can be said for alcoholism, homosexuality etc. How that curse manifests itself can vary... but the point is that it can be our own sin that brings curses upon us and our family as sin is also communal. __________________ who am I that you should suffer
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09-24-2005, 12:18 PM	#9
Fighter07 Fighter07 Edit AY! Newbie	Curses are very real. They can happen to people when they walk outside of the word of God in unforgiveness, strife, non-tithers (your cursed with a curse), and people who speak opposite of the Word (cursing yourself). For example we so commonly say, "I'm sick, I have this and that disease, I have cancer, or that kid will never get saved, my neighborhood is wicked," so forth and so forth. You are speaking a curse apon yourself and if someone says like I stated before that some kid will never get saved, you are speaking a curse on that person's life instead of speaking the Word. Proverbs 18:21 says, "Death and life are in the power of the tongue." Also Proverbs 26:2 says, "The curse causeless shall not come so there is always a cause for a curse."
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09-24-2005, 12:32 PM	#10
catlover16 catlover16 Edit AY! Newbie	I really don't know, but I have to agree that things you say can cause harm.
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