U.S. torture of Terrorist criminals alright?

debator4ever · 07-10-2006, 11:01 PM

I think its fine. Nowadays, a bomb could go off next door any second.
We don't have time to plead with prisoners wilinng to die for their cause.
Inflicting pain, I believe, is the only way.
What do ya'll think? Godly, and secular views are fine.

PureOxygen · 07-10-2006, 11:15 PM

Honestly, since I don't know what the Bible says on this issue, I'm inclined to be ok with it. Terrorists have done terrible things to people, for some reason I don't think some physical pain is beyond humane.

debator4ever · 07-10-2006, 11:17 PM

It would also be for the greater good.

RadicalDisciple · 07-10-2006, 11:18 PM

I think there is still a limit to how far it can go so I put "unsure" as "to a certain extent" is not an option

debator4ever · 07-10-2006, 11:21 PM

Its all the same lol. jk
I don't know if there is a limit or not. I'd be calm with it going pretty far...

HaveFaith2005 · 07-11-2006, 07:31 AM

I know some people would disagree with me, but I voted no on torture.

World Changer · 07-11-2006, 01:11 PM

No. Since when has torturing people, no matter what they do, been ethical? Look you guys, seriously, just because George Bush thinks something is necessary doesn't mean that it's right. Remember when Jesus talked about not following the "eye for an eye" thing.

DyingToLive · 07-11-2006, 01:45 PM

How do you know the information you're getting from your prisoner is actually correct? Doesn't it change hourly anyways? Isn't it just a waste of time and effort?

I've always been against torture, and I always will be. The fact of the matter is, information changes faster then we can catch up with it, and you might as well spend your time finding a needle in a haystack then torturing someone who most likely knows nothing, and even if he did, would probably be irrelevant in a matter of minutes.

Brandi · 07-11-2006, 02:43 PM

arnt we suposed to be better then the prisonors? if we go down to there lvl and trouture them and abuse them like they have so many others we become nothing better

En79 · 07-14-2006, 11:51 PM

Surely you know what happened in England in the Tower of London hundreds of years ago? The accused were brutally tortured into admitting crimes that most likely they didn't commit. Same with the Salem witch trials. If you don't have sufficient evidence that someone did a crime, then, as far as I'm concerned, you have no business to punish them. Also, not only is it immoral, it is impractical. How can you possibly get an honest answer out of someone if they are being coerced? All you're doing is getting them to say what you want to hear. If someone's tortured enough, then they'll say anything. How do you know that what you're hearing is the truth? Wouldn't you want to arrest the right person for the crime rather than someone who may not have done it? Wouldn't you want truth to ultimately win out?

As for cases where the accused has lawfully been found guilty, I still do not believe torture is acceptable. I think we should put our efforts into keeping the rest of society safe instead of beating the heck out of someone. It's unnecessary, and what is there to gain?

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07-10-2006, 11:01 PM	#1
debator4ever debator4ever Edit Prophet/Prophetess	U.S. torture of Terrorist criminals alright? I think its fine. Nowadays, a bomb could go off next door any second. We don't have time to plead with prisoners wilinng to die for their cause. Inflicting pain, I believe, is the only way. What do ya'll think? Godly, and secular views are fine. __________________ Why is the rum *Always* Gone?!
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07-10-2006, 11:15 PM	#2
PureOxygen PureOxygen Edit Super Moderator	Honestly, since I don't know what the Bible says on this issue, I'm inclined to be ok with it. Terrorists have done terrible things to people, for some reason I don't think some physical pain is beyond humane. __________________ "Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain." -1 Corinthians 15:58 (NIV)
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07-10-2006, 11:17 PM	#3
debator4ever debator4ever Edit Prophet/Prophetess	It would also be for the greater good. __________________ Why is the rum *Always* Gone?!
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07-10-2006, 11:18 PM	#4
RadicalDisciple RadicalDisciple Edit Prophetic Intercessor	I think there is still a limit to how far it can go so I put "unsure" as "to a certain extent" is not an option __________________ "The men who followed Him were unique in their generation. They turned the world upside down because their hearts had been turned right side up. The world has never been the same."-Billy Graham radical- adjective- relating to the most important parts of something or someone; complete or extreme disciple - noun- a person who believes in the ideas and principles of someone famous (i.e. Jesus!) and tries to live the way they do or did
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07-10-2006, 11:21 PM	#5
debator4ever debator4ever Edit Prophet/Prophetess	Its all the same lol. jk I don't know if there is a limit or not. I'd be calm with it going pretty far... __________________ Why is the rum *Always* Gone?!
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07-11-2006, 07:31 AM	#6
HaveFaith2005 HaveFaith2005 is in your extened network. Edit Have a great day!	I know some people would disagree with me, but I voted no on torture. __________________ Have a blesse New Year!
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07-11-2006, 01:11 PM	#7
World Changer World Changer Edit Prophet/Prophetess	No. Since when has torturing people, no matter what they do, been ethical? Look you guys, seriously, just because George Bush thinks something is necessary doesn't mean that it's right. Remember when Jesus talked about not following the "eye for an eye" thing.
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07-11-2006, 01:45 PM	#8
DyingToLive DyingToLive Edit Prophet/Prophetess	How do you know the information you're getting from your prisoner is actually correct? Doesn't it change hourly anyways? Isn't it just a waste of time and effort? I've always been against torture, and I always will be. The fact of the matter is, information changes faster then we can catch up with it, and you might as well spend your time finding a needle in a haystack then torturing someone who most likely knows nothing, and even if he did, would probably be irrelevant in a matter of minutes. __________________ The times when you have seen only one set of footprints in the sand, is when I carried you. ...The words of one in despair belong to the wind... Click! For My Wonderful Myspace.
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07-11-2006, 02:43 PM	#9
Brandi Brandi Edit Prophet/Prophetess	arnt we suposed to be better then the prisonors? if we go down to there lvl and trouture them and abuse them like they have so many others we become nothing better __________________ I do not agree with a word you say but i will defend to the death your right to say it~Voltaire "The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision." Lynn Lavner
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07-14-2006, 11:51 PM	#10
En79 En79 Edit Apostle	Surely you know what happened in England in the Tower of London hundreds of years ago? The accused were brutally tortured into admitting crimes that most likely they didn't commit. Same with the Salem witch trials. If you don't have sufficient evidence that someone did a crime, then, as far as I'm concerned, you have no business to punish them. Also, not only is it immoral, it is impractical. How can you possibly get an honest answer out of someone if they are being coerced? All you're doing is getting them to say what you want to hear. If someone's tortured enough, then they'll say anything. How do you know that what you're hearing is the truth? Wouldn't you want to arrest the right person for the crime rather than someone who may not have done it? Wouldn't you want truth to ultimately win out? As for cases where the accused has lawfully been found guilty, I still do not believe torture is acceptable. I think we should put our efforts into keeping the rest of society safe instead of beating the heck out of someone. It's unnecessary, and what is there to gain? __________________ Those who say they aren't there to make friends often don't. -Me I know how to do everything- hire somebody else. -Me
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